Living Dangerously in Govan by James McDonald. However, as little seems to have changed in the last 30 years does this mean that at last, local communities are to be involved in making decisions about their futures? "I like to be challenged and Govan did that every day.". I used to go there with my Mum to Woolworths, they had shoe shops and everything you wanted. Govan covers a huge part of Glasgow's Southside and is famous the world over for its ship building and football team. I was wondering if anyone had any information on the McSherry family? When the sirens went for everyone to go to their shelters, our grandfather had to come and help her take us to St. Anthony's school (our shelter). In 1975 the sociologist Sean Damer went to live for six months in Britains most notorious housing scheme, Moorepark, or as it was known to all The Wine Alley of Govan in Glasgow. Any way they started to ask us our schools and of course my mates answered Broomloan Rd, Bellahouston and Lorne St, but when it came my turn my truthful answer was Our Lady and St Margaret's Primary just up the road from here. Somehow the government cannot understand that external improvements can only benefit any dilapidated area by not only improving its external image but also by giving the local residents a sense of Well-Being. I met him at our place of employment. Prihlsi sa. Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. Post moderation is undertaken full-time 9am-6pm on weekdays, and on a part-time basis outwith those hours. I've looked at several sites like this, in search of a memory or a photo and never found a thing - yet it was a Govan institution. I remember our next door neigbours on the ground floor the Meechans and particularly John,who was around the same age as myself. Laurel Brook. we were easy pleased in those days. There I was, short hair, snotty-nosed from crying and eating an ice cream cone. 4, Soon, the housing scheme had a bad name. When the car stopped at lights in Helen Street it was surrounded by the surveillance team who arrested the driver and seized the heroin which had a street value of 50,000 - worth 125,000 today. He also sold single woodbine cigarettes out the packet. I was born in the Southern General Hospital in 1958 and lived at 23 McGregor Street, Chookiehill [Teucharhill] as it was fondly called then. Lesbian actress Raven-Symone showed off her high top fade and her unique backpack at the Los Angeles Premiere of Fox's 'Empire at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, California. Marconi Electronic Systems and its Marconi Marine unit were sold to British Aerospace in 1999 to form BAE Systems. My mother was born at 68 Harmony Row in 1924, when she was about 10 she was sent to Dand's Drapers on Langlands Road to buy thread for a neighbour and got her finger caught in the door which resulted in losing the tip of it which gave her years of pain, on a lighter note on the subway to hospital she had to pace up and down with pain which resulted in her leaving the subway with her pockets jingling. I still have a picture in my mind of your father Guido, a very handsome man. I went to Hills Trust primary and can remember having to sit my 11 plus exam and passed by the skin of my teeth (lots of mental arithmetic). Glorious Govan. It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. Naturally the slum dwellers of Govan, who though it their right to have most of the new house in their own locality, were angry and outraged at their expectations being ignored by the authorities. My sisters were Elaine & Brenda and my brother was George. My sister and I were born the year before the second world war at Montrose nursing home in Govan. 199310 Scottish Charity No. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. George and Mary Breslin's, 2 boys (Raymond and Michael), William & Margaret Gallagher's boy and girl (Charles and Maureen) and John & Annie Mc Culloch's 2 girls and 1 boy ( Elizabeth, Mary and John) which was us. Yes Danny, Hamilton Street was renamed to Nethan Street between 1931 and 1932. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. Lots of memories too many to say here. James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. They thanked him for the work they had done in cleaning up Wine Alley and bringing Burnsides two-year reign of terror to an end. In sum, effective participatory urban management calls for a fundamental rethink from all the players involved, from the local authorities and development agencies, through local (and sometimes international) non-governmental organisations, to the community-based organisations themselve; in redefining their roles and relationships, if something is to be done for the benefit of all. I was born in 1946 at 16 Elderpark Street, I had 3 brothers; Harry, Robert and Ronnie, we all went to Greenfield Primary school, Harry and Robert also went to Govan High School and we also went to 168th Boys Brigade and lifeboys. When Damer returned to the area in 1989 he found that his earlier report had had two outcomes. Jimmy's was our local shop and Ruby's was out local bakery which fed the Fairfield's workers. Wine Alley Govan Glasgow | Visit A Winery Her name was Mary Murray. He also had a shop in Govan Road and he lived at 31 (I think) Copland Road, his name was Robert Reid and he had 2 daughters, Jane my mother and her sister Molly who lived for years in Merryland Street before it was pulled down. Site Number NS56NE 4994. It was great reading all the stories. Glasgow Green Flagstones at Jocelyn Square in front of the McLennan Arch inform us that this was the site of public executions in the city until 1865. My mother and grandfather raised me alongside my two sisters and three brothers and various in-laws who moved in and out of the home through the years. My father was a chemist who worked for the SCWS. Next thing, I found myself lying on the ground. Does anyone remember my dad Iain Campbell and mother Margaret Marshall born 1921 and 1922? Tel: 0141 440 1999, Fax: 0141 440 1367 , He had a kilt on and a curly walking stick. Zabudli ste daje na prstup k tu? 122m The Govan Shed . We all went to Harmony Row school because that was where our mother went and she wanted us to have the same teachers she had, and there were a few left from when she attended there. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. Directions to Wine Alley Govan (Glasgow) with public transport The following transport lines have routes that pass near Wine Alley Govan Bus : 121 23 26 X19 Train : SCOTRAIL Light rail : SUB How to get to Wine Alley Govan by Bus? No-Go Britain: Where, what, why - The Independent Smith did know Glasgow well, but Edinburgh (where he later worked as Secretary to the University) was gloriously exotic. Gloria Govan and Derek Fisher are Married! | Lipstick Alley Fond memories include falling in the Elder Park pond and breaking my collar bone, trying to do the fish and chips, building gang huts in the air-raid shelters and raking the middens. A similar uncertainty existed regarding the nearby lands of Pollokshields and Westends. I might have served you in the shop in the early 70s as a teenager. The huge shoe shop was, I think Bayne and Ducketts. My grandparents lived opposite and I remember being sent down to McGunness for an ounce of tobacco for my grand dads pipe. 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. The barbers shop was called "Knop & Joyce" and was at 26 Langlands Road, it opened in 1929 and Harry Knop lived in the next close at 34 Langlands Road. 11 Barr, 1997, p. 47-58 12Dailly, 2005, p. 8 My great grandfather lived at 67 Garmouth Street with his 3 daughters. Govan was the site of a ford and later a ferry which linked the area with Partick for seasonal cattle drovers. (they lived up the pen at No. Dry Docks Cafe. I was born at 17 Holmfaulhead Drive, Linthouse in 1947 and went to Elderpark School. [19] It was removed in the early 19th century and Reid's Dyeworks was erected on the site. As I recall they sold very trendy tops marketed as Trendy. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. The second outcome was a general agreement among officials to stop using the abusive term of Wine Alley as this served only to reproduce the stigma of the scheme. Show More . Providing a family base with a family room in Govan, with weekly meetings in Govan and Easterhouse Providing consistent, non-judgmental support to families and individuals, and home visits to families in crisis Many memories but top must be winning Whitefield Cup with Under 13s against Lourdes in 1962 by 7-6. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. It was incorporated into the City of Glasgow in 1912.[5]. It is now an industrial estate . If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can Would love to hear from you. Went back recently, but things are not the same. Acumfaegovan born and brought up on Langlands Road with my sisters Susan and Elaine Wilson by my wonderful parents Vera and Bill Wilson. I would like to know if anyone remembers these times. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU They were, however, very much a part of the physical landscape that became Renfrewshire. Even having a "piece" thrown from the window was an adventure would it be "butter"and sugar or Jam what a treat! This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) Classification Housing Estate (Modern) Alternative Name (s) Moorpark Housing Estate; 'wine Alley'. I loved going to the Steamie with my Mum and her friends. . HP10 9TY. The following year in 1966, the yard was again reorganised as Fairfields and guaranteed by the government in response. Glasgow Crime: Wine Alley and drug dealer Eddie Burnside 124m D.C Hair&Beauty . There were two other sporting venues for local residents and workers located in the south of Govan (with no space available in the industrial northern area at the Clyde): White City Stadium and Albion Greyhound Stadium, both now entirely demolished. I guess I drifted away from Govan for some time although I watched it contract as the shipyard industry faded and that was until my interest was aroused as the company I was working for took up new premisis near the Southern General as it was then. We stayed in Elphinstone Street but after a fire we had to move to my grans house at 62 Golspie Street at the corner of Langlands Road, it was known as McCormick's close he being the owner of a hardware store. I remember my mum and dad and telling me how Govan was full of works, tenements, shops and pubs and how it was a vibrant place, this was very different from 1970s Govan that I grew up in, instead it was like a town after the blitz, I remember large areas of spare ground where the tenements and shops once stood, I remember playing in the old derelict tenements and works and in the rubble of demolished tenements, in the old tenements in Orkney Street we pretended to pour pints in the old Albert Bar. I considered that I did a real job and that what he did for a living was nonsense. I was born in Broomloan Road by the pot heid (TSB) bank which is still there. Based on this, Govan's Cumbric language name has been reconstructed as *(G)uovan. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Great memories of Summertown Road baths. When they married on the 29/4/1939 they moved to Hillington. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. C/o Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND AGENT Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND WARD NO (S) 52, Govan COMMUNITY COUNCIL 02_073, Govan CONSERVATION AREA LISTED ADVERTTYPE Bad Neighbour Development PUBLISHED 24 October 2003 SITE AND DESCRIPTION We love it here, but still go back to Scotland every other year. I learned then that Govan as I knew it had obviously changed (the three picture houses were gone) but was still a thriving community. Govan was thriving in those days. I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. "And so for the time being I have finished this series (4th book comming this year) what an amazing book I especially loved the mention of the wine alley in govan as that's where my mama is from! and education and learning came into my thoughts. This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. Lots of memories of that area. Eventually, my dad arrived asking if anyone had handed in a wee lassie. The yard eventually closed in the wake of the collapse of the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders consortium in 1971.[35]. I thought you wrote "hides in a fridge and dodges an erection!" . approached in flavour to wine. Over the years the Wine Alley had been severely neglected by the council and in the 1980s like a lot of places in Britain people were faced with high unemployment, drug abuse and crime, it continued to get worse and the homes were in such a bad state due to continued council neglect and lack of investment that they were demolished by 1995 and the people scattered to the 4 corners of Govan and beyond.http://www.acumfaegovan.com I was born and raised at 976 Govan road and remember concerts we used to have round the back for the neighbours and we would make costumes out of crepe paper and sing songs like" oh you beautiful doll you great big beautiful doll". We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. First, if the government are to tackle inequality and the centring of disadvantaged groups, then they will have to understand that it is the housing system itself that creates it. [28], In 1977, the Labour government of James Callaghan passed the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act which nationalised Govan and grouped it with other major British shipyards as British Shipbuilders. Moorepark was demolished and converted into an industrial estate in the 1990s, along with a nearby contemporary development at Teucharhill which had a similar tough reputation. With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. I then went to Govan High, teachers I remember and not with any fondness are Jockey Rayburn (Maths) Duncan (English) and Miss Downny (Maths) who was a lovely teacher, I had two brother George and Stuart who also went to the same primary and also went to Govan High. I used to walk up Neptune Street between the two grandparents homes, but even that seems to have been cut off. ', "1881 England Census, The London Charterhouse, St Sepulchre Without, London, p.6 RG11/344", "University of Glasgow:: Story:: Biography of Jimmy Reid", "Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977 (c. 3) Schedule 2 Shipbuilding Industry", Govan Maps 1857-1934, National Library of Scotland, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Govan&oldid=1127691800, Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with Wikisource reference, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing Scottish Gaelic-language text, Articles with MusicBrainz area identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 16 December 2022, at 03:51. First of all, they invited local and international designers to attend a three day team design effort to come up with imaginative projects that would redress the problems they had in their 3-storey, concrete block houses.7, The group then lobbied the City Council, the Scottish Office and finally Westminster, until they were eventually given the go-ahead to revamp one of the old blocks of 6 houses into model they desired. Remember, Charlies sweet shop opposite us, where after playing football we were soaked in sweat, you got a glass of lemonade for threepence. Forgotten account? Glasgow Tower - Glasgow - WorldPlaces In Cowie Street, Kinning Park there was a pub at the corner but can't remember what it was called? In the Wine Alley, I loved the people more than anything. Curtis Govan, 23, was convicted in July of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, simple assault, resisting arrest,. Value 3/4 . This was the catalyst that led local Govanites into despising the peoph of Moorepark, and considering them as different and alien. The newlyweds got engaged in April 2018 after dating for three years and were forced to delay their wedding last April due to the coronavirus pandemic. This work was focused on parent-child. Media/news company. It arrived at a house in Liverpool and then left a short time later to head back to Glasgow, arriving about midnight. Introduction In 1975 the sociologist Sean Damer went to live for six months in Britain's most notorious housing scheme, Moorepark, or as it was known to all The Wine Alley' of Govan in Glasgow. He was lim, dark-haired and kind, probably in his 30s. 110m Govan Road Campus . My Mum was Godmother to your brother and I was at your wedding. Anyone remember Quinn's pet shop in Harmony Row? sau. I too, have fond memories of playing and performing small shows, and we all thought we could act. My father "served his time" in the Thermotank then for many years was a policeman in Plantation Street. It is in this context that he placed the above paragraph at the very forefront of his book From Moorepark to Wine Alley, The rise and fall of a Glasgow housing scheme, and it is also for the same reasons that this section of the Braendam Link Report investigates housing (especially in Glasgow), its problems, and how they could be solved by community planning. Within a years, Moorepark had gained the abusive epithet of the Wine Alley. [6] Govan is believed to have then been part of a kingdom ruled from Dumbarton Rock, known as Alt Clut, the rock on the Clyde. 9/1 We are the Eskimoes. My paternal grandfather was an engine keeper for the Phoenix Copper Works, and lived on Brighton Street. Instead, it referred to the popularity of cheap and powerful tonic wines particularly with young people - the vast consumption of which would often lead to violence and disorder. Poor Man, he said to my Mother, "the way she's trying to kick me I think her hips are fine".
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